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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Lew,

Thanks for posting a link to your blog on SPOT.  Very thoughtful and provoking.

Our grandmother had dementia in her last years-- I often remarked that &quot;we lost her before we lost her&quot; -- the cognitive and personnality parts that we knew.

It&#039;s all loss; and eventually all is lost -- just different parts or different rates.

Thanks again.  Gassho, Norm G.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Lew,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting a link to your blog on SPOT.  Very thoughtful and provoking.</p>
<p>Our grandmother had dementia in her last years&#8211; I often remarked that &#8220;we lost her before we lost her&#8221; &#8212; the cognitive and personnality parts that we knew.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all loss; and eventually all is lost &#8212; just different parts or different rates.</p>
<p>Thanks again.  Gassho, Norm G.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Lew,

Thank you for this insightful post. I had never considered dementia as an aspect of the Abhidharma’s &quot;fear of unusual states of consciousness.&quot; I had always heard the teaching in relation to fears that may arise in meditation practice.

In the Dharma, Ron]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Lew,</p>
<p>Thank you for this insightful post. I had never considered dementia as an aspect of the Abhidharma’s &#8220;fear of unusual states of consciousness.&#8221; I had always heard the teaching in relation to fears that may arise in meditation practice.</p>
<p>In the Dharma, Ron</p>
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		<title>By: jo lillis</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2009/12/27/fear-of-dementia/#comment-537</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ho, friends,

     My (adopted) sister C died in Portland a year ago, following a ten-year slide into Alzheimerland.  At first, her adult son was keeping track of how she was doing. When the &quot;D-word&quot; was mentioned I went there and got connected with one of the agencies that was assisting her, and continued to rely on her son.
     Two years later the son died.  As I was hauling freight at the time I was able to spend 2-3 days a month with here.  The folks at the membership organization, Outreach In Burnside, were very happy to see me show up, and I and the staff became good friends.  I was able to assist C in various ways, both in person and by phone.
     C had been a writer of poetry and short stories, and her &#039;story generator&#039; was in full flower some of the time.  On the other hand, her physical health and her personality were intact, and we had quite wonderful long walks and meals in restaurants.
     Ultimately Oregon took cognizance of her getting lost a lot, and insisted that she live in an adult fostercare home.  When that home failed, we found a quite nice secured nursing facility where she was comfortable for the last year and a half.

     I now live in California, do Hospice patient care and caregiver relief, among other things.  I find this work immensely rewarding, partly as a resuly of that Portland exzperience.  I often benefit from an expression of the folks at Outreach:  &quot;we&#039;ll just roll with it!&quot;

Best wishes to all,  j]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho, friends,</p>
<p>     My (adopted) sister C died in Portland a year ago, following a ten-year slide into Alzheimerland.  At first, her adult son was keeping track of how she was doing. When the &#8220;D-word&#8221; was mentioned I went there and got connected with one of the agencies that was assisting her, and continued to rely on her son.<br />
     Two years later the son died.  As I was hauling freight at the time I was able to spend 2-3 days a month with here.  The folks at the membership organization, Outreach In Burnside, were very happy to see me show up, and I and the staff became good friends.  I was able to assist C in various ways, both in person and by phone.<br />
     C had been a writer of poetry and short stories, and her &#8216;story generator&#8217; was in full flower some of the time.  On the other hand, her physical health and her personality were intact, and we had quite wonderful long walks and meals in restaurants.<br />
     Ultimately Oregon took cognizance of her getting lost a lot, and insisted that she live in an adult fostercare home.  When that home failed, we found a quite nice secured nursing facility where she was comfortable for the last year and a half.</p>
<p>     I now live in California, do Hospice patient care and caregiver relief, among other things.  I find this work immensely rewarding, partly as a resuly of that Portland exzperience.  I often benefit from an expression of the folks at Outreach:  &#8220;we&#8217;ll just roll with it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Best wishes to all,  j</p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2009/12/27/fear-of-dementia/#comment-536</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to pull on that thread encapsulated here:
&quot;But until the day comes that you get that diagnosis, what is this fear, really? It is nothing more than a thought form, something that might be, could be, that would be terrible if it were real, but isn’t real now.&quot;

I find myself worrying about a number of things, climate change, the current state of the country, the world, peak-oil, and my increasing vulnerability to deal with the outfall of these things as I age. I actually lose sleep over these things. I have to constantly remind myself that the fear of these things are thoughts, that right now, none of these things is what&#039;s in front of my nose. Are there any tools I can add to my practice to help with that?

Thanks,

Willy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to pull on that thread encapsulated here:<br />
&#8220;But until the day comes that you get that diagnosis, what is this fear, really? It is nothing more than a thought form, something that might be, could be, that would be terrible if it were real, but isn’t real now.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find myself worrying about a number of things, climate change, the current state of the country, the world, peak-oil, and my increasing vulnerability to deal with the outfall of these things as I age. I actually lose sleep over these things. I have to constantly remind myself that the fear of these things are thoughts, that right now, none of these things is what&#8217;s in front of my nose. Are there any tools I can add to my practice to help with that?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Willy</p>
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		<title>By: lewrich</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an obvious point, but the fact that we can think about Alzeimer&#039;s and have fear about it means that we are actually in pretty good shape.  Fear means you are alive!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an obvious point, but the fact that we can think about Alzeimer&#8217;s and have fear about it means that we are actually in pretty good shape.  Fear means you are alive!</p>
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		<title>By: wildflower</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[helpful posts, everyone. I sure struggle at times with this fear, along with others. After thinking about this one for awhile, I go back to Thrangu Rinpoche&#039;s &quot;underlying Buddha nature unchanged,&quot; and Lew&#039;s &quot;luminosity&quot; as a quality of Buddha nature...

as things change around us and in us, our essential selves are unchanged..

luminosity is a quality that has always been present in Buddha nature, and will always be...

these sound like the brass tacks for practice in the new year.  As I age, conditions arise increasingly for worry, fear, anger...arghhhh. More and more, I&#039;m making an effort to drop these, and simply practice. It&#039;s a shaky proposition, sometimes; but seeing the worry, fear, anger and all the rest of it as reminders to practice means that....I have no excuses....?  That luminosity is one quality that underlies all, gets we back to my cushion once more...

metta, everyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>helpful posts, everyone. I sure struggle at times with this fear, along with others. After thinking about this one for awhile, I go back to Thrangu Rinpoche&#8217;s &#8220;underlying Buddha nature unchanged,&#8221; and Lew&#8217;s &#8220;luminosity&#8221; as a quality of Buddha nature&#8230;</p>
<p>as things change around us and in us, our essential selves are unchanged..</p>
<p>luminosity is a quality that has always been present in Buddha nature, and will always be&#8230;</p>
<p>these sound like the brass tacks for practice in the new year.  As I age, conditions arise increasingly for worry, fear, anger&#8230;arghhhh. More and more, I&#8217;m making an effort to drop these, and simply practice. It&#8217;s a shaky proposition, sometimes; but seeing the worry, fear, anger and all the rest of it as reminders to practice means that&#8230;.I have no excuses&#8230;.?  That luminosity is one quality that underlies all, gets we back to my cushion once more&#8230;</p>
<p>metta, everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mom has Alzheimer&#039;s, hubby has Parkinson&#039;s and seems to have dementia (have been through times with his having many hallucinations)  I get frustrated. Stop and breath. When I forget something, thoughts of mom and my hubby, rush in. Then the pity pot.  Not afraid of death.  Afraid of burdening my children. Afraid of losing my temper at mom and hubby. Have taken Boddhisatva vows, but not always compassionate for self or others. The worst part is witnessing the paranoia in my formerly gentle, trusting mother.  The inability to do simple mental tasks for my hubby. The worst part is when I become impatient.  Dementia sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom has Alzheimer&#8217;s, hubby has Parkinson&#8217;s and seems to have dementia (have been through times with his having many hallucinations)  I get frustrated. Stop and breath. When I forget something, thoughts of mom and my hubby, rush in. Then the pity pot.  Not afraid of death.  Afraid of burdening my children. Afraid of losing my temper at mom and hubby. Have taken Boddhisatva vows, but not always compassionate for self or others. The worst part is witnessing the paranoia in my formerly gentle, trusting mother.  The inability to do simple mental tasks for my hubby. The worst part is when I become impatient.  Dementia sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: lewrich</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for everyone&#039;s comments.  When Thrangu Rinpoche said that while the mental faculties are damaged in Alzheimer&#039;s the buddha nature remains, he did not mean that we ourselves could experience it or access it in the ordinary way we access things, i.e. through our mental faculties.  Buddha nature is like aliveness itself.  An alive thing has it, is it, expresses it.

As some people here have noted, people with Alzheimer&#039;s themselves can be quite sweet and open, like Ronald Reagan seeing a book about horses, and saying, &quot;Oh, a book!&quot;

Our life is always so incredibly fragile--everything about it could go at any time.  That&#039;s how it actually is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for everyone&#8217;s comments.  When Thrangu Rinpoche said that while the mental faculties are damaged in Alzheimer&#8217;s the buddha nature remains, he did not mean that we ourselves could experience it or access it in the ordinary way we access things, i.e. through our mental faculties.  Buddha nature is like aliveness itself.  An alive thing has it, is it, expresses it.</p>
<p>As some people here have noted, people with Alzheimer&#8217;s themselves can be quite sweet and open, like Ronald Reagan seeing a book about horses, and saying, &#8220;Oh, a book!&#8221;</p>
<p>Our life is always so incredibly fragile&#8211;everything about it could go at any time.  That&#8217;s how it actually is.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Lunine</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2009/12/27/fear-of-dementia/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynthia Lunine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father is now being helped with hospice care, a result of his progressing dementia, which, in his case has destroyed not only memories, but increasingly, the ability to speak and to move body parts voluntarily. He needs more and more care and becomes very agitated and angry in the night sometimes. My mother is the one who suffers so much more--without a Buddhist perspective and without too much memory of her own, except that she is out of control and their lives have changed far too fast for her to adjust. As all try to do, I am making great effort to provide any comfort that is possible, emotionally, spiritually, physically--far, far too little--and working to develop the perspective and skills for my own aging. Right now, there&#039;s no overt fear--it comes and goes--but Rebecca stated the ultimate question clearly: it is probably not possible to realize our true nature in the physical body and in our actions in life when the mind has been destroyed. Can you comment, Lewis??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father is now being helped with hospice care, a result of his progressing dementia, which, in his case has destroyed not only memories, but increasingly, the ability to speak and to move body parts voluntarily. He needs more and more care and becomes very agitated and angry in the night sometimes. My mother is the one who suffers so much more&#8211;without a Buddhist perspective and without too much memory of her own, except that she is out of control and their lives have changed far too fast for her to adjust. As all try to do, I am making great effort to provide any comfort that is possible, emotionally, spiritually, physically&#8211;far, far too little&#8211;and working to develop the perspective and skills for my own aging. Right now, there&#8217;s no overt fear&#8211;it comes and goes&#8211;but Rebecca stated the ultimate question clearly: it is probably not possible to realize our true nature in the physical body and in our actions in life when the mind has been destroyed. Can you comment, Lewis??</p>
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		<title>By: John E</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In being kind to ourselves we learn how to be kind to others. True compassion and warmth are the abilities of some who have gone through suffering to the same or similar degree that is being witnessed in each day all around us by others. The more we cling to, the harder it is to let go. 

So, certain habits I have been dropping through the years with the intent of feeling life without getting what I had wanted, and ending up fairly pleased with a more simple and connected experience with others who take less, or have been given less. I can watch a leaf in the wind, and feel it is me, being blown around by ego.

My mind is no exception, I don&#039;t see it&#039;s main purpose to be a bank of ideas and facts. I shall always be fond of the communal nature of the changing sky, and how the natural world around us has a life similar to my own ups and downs, of taking in and letting go. Nature is my master, that I do not own]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In being kind to ourselves we learn how to be kind to others. True compassion and warmth are the abilities of some who have gone through suffering to the same or similar degree that is being witnessed in each day all around us by others. The more we cling to, the harder it is to let go. </p>
<p>So, certain habits I have been dropping through the years with the intent of feeling life without getting what I had wanted, and ending up fairly pleased with a more simple and connected experience with others who take less, or have been given less. I can watch a leaf in the wind, and feel it is me, being blown around by ego.</p>
<p>My mind is no exception, I don&#8217;t see it&#8217;s main purpose to be a bank of ideas and facts. I shall always be fond of the communal nature of the changing sky, and how the natural world around us has a life similar to my own ups and downs, of taking in and letting go. Nature is my master, that I do not own</p>
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