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		<title>By: m kie</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-655</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Responding -- respectfully -- to Barbara, who is &quot;trusting that things would always be the way they had been as long as she does her best.&quot; I feel a lot of confusion about this point of view. At times I have shared it, and it has given me great strength, joy, freedom and comfort. The conviction that I&#039;ll be OK no matter what gives exhilaration and freedom (amidst the fear). But these days I get no comfort from this idea. After all, for many people -- for most of the world --  there is absolutely no guarantee that things will turn out alright if we give it our best of have good intentions. (And, forgive me, Barbara, if that is not what you were saying ... I&#039;m just riffing off your post and taking it far afield). 

This &quot;trust your higher power and the universe will deliver what you need&quot; philosophy has in large part replaced traditional religion where I live (West coast). And much as I&#039;d like to subscribe, I can&#039;t buy it. It&#039;s really the same as the evangelical Christian perspective, isn&#039;t it: the you&#039;re-in-good-hands-with-Jesus idea?

The fact is, things are much more fragile and unpredictable than that. (That perspective would make me a &quot;cynic&quot; in the eyes of many of my neighbors).

Of course, the realized being knows that all it&#039;s OK because everything -- heaven, hell, earth, like, happiness, turmoil, war, peace -- is neither good nor bad, just is, and we deal with it as it comes, in fear or without fear. Intellectually, I get that. But I miss the comfort and feeling of a safety net that I had when I thought that everything would turn out OK because how could it not?

I&#039;d love to hear what others think of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding &#8212; respectfully &#8212; to Barbara, who is &#8220;trusting that things would always be the way they had been as long as she does her best.&#8221; I feel a lot of confusion about this point of view. At times I have shared it, and it has given me great strength, joy, freedom and comfort. The conviction that I&#8217;ll be OK no matter what gives exhilaration and freedom (amidst the fear). But these days I get no comfort from this idea. After all, for many people &#8212; for most of the world &#8212;  there is absolutely no guarantee that things will turn out alright if we give it our best of have good intentions. (And, forgive me, Barbara, if that is not what you were saying &#8230; I&#8217;m just riffing off your post and taking it far afield). </p>
<p>This &#8220;trust your higher power and the universe will deliver what you need&#8221; philosophy has in large part replaced traditional religion where I live (West coast). And much as I&#8217;d like to subscribe, I can&#8217;t buy it. It&#8217;s really the same as the evangelical Christian perspective, isn&#8217;t it: the you&#8217;re-in-good-hands-with-Jesus idea?</p>
<p>The fact is, things are much more fragile and unpredictable than that. (That perspective would make me a &#8220;cynic&#8221; in the eyes of many of my neighbors).</p>
<p>Of course, the realized being knows that all it&#8217;s OK because everything &#8212; heaven, hell, earth, like, happiness, turmoil, war, peace &#8212; is neither good nor bad, just is, and we deal with it as it comes, in fear or without fear. Intellectually, I get that. But I miss the comfort and feeling of a safety net that I had when I thought that everything would turn out OK because how could it not?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear what others think of this.</p>
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		<title>By: lewrich</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-599</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for everyone&#039;s post.  This arena of livelihood is indeed deep!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for everyone&#8217;s post.  This arena of livelihood is indeed deep!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-596</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more week and the livelihood I have enjoyed will be done.  I could be sent to another project in two months, but that is dream like and indeterminate.  Two months, two years, who knows?  

There is a sense of freedom of limitation.  I am watching for fear but there is none.  So here I present a monologue of this current experience of livelihood&#039;s interruption.  Maybe it is useless, maybe it is not.

It seems easiest to attribute the lack of fear to simple presence.    This presence is not of the sort like being here in the moment.  It is not like being attentive to watching the river flow by, setting up a continuum of coming and going.

This presence is more akin to floating, relaxed resting in river&#039;s currency, embraced with the river&#039;s flow such that water is not moving by at all, just so, so timeless like. 

The shores pass, like life&#039;s display, each bend a new vista.  In such  timelessness of what use is fixation on a passing shore so soon gone, nailing it down, or what is around the next bend making what is not real as real?  

Of what use is fixating on such confusion and thereby being confused?  

In timelessness, of what use is reifying the indeterminate as determinate?

Why be seduced by memories of past experiences that imprint anticipation of future events?  This merely gives power to fear. 

By asking these questions, in reflection, the honest answer is laughter.

So this abundant gig that is closing upon itself, just is.  Merely another passing divine appearance of innate purity that is perfectly so.

How can fear of losing livelihood climb my back if there are no footholds found?

With a begging bowl I may go!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more week and the livelihood I have enjoyed will be done.  I could be sent to another project in two months, but that is dream like and indeterminate.  Two months, two years, who knows?  </p>
<p>There is a sense of freedom of limitation.  I am watching for fear but there is none.  So here I present a monologue of this current experience of livelihood&#8217;s interruption.  Maybe it is useless, maybe it is not.</p>
<p>It seems easiest to attribute the lack of fear to simple presence.    This presence is not of the sort like being here in the moment.  It is not like being attentive to watching the river flow by, setting up a continuum of coming and going.</p>
<p>This presence is more akin to floating, relaxed resting in river&#8217;s currency, embraced with the river&#8217;s flow such that water is not moving by at all, just so, so timeless like. </p>
<p>The shores pass, like life&#8217;s display, each bend a new vista.  In such  timelessness of what use is fixation on a passing shore so soon gone, nailing it down, or what is around the next bend making what is not real as real?  </p>
<p>Of what use is fixating on such confusion and thereby being confused?  </p>
<p>In timelessness, of what use is reifying the indeterminate as determinate?</p>
<p>Why be seduced by memories of past experiences that imprint anticipation of future events?  This merely gives power to fear. </p>
<p>By asking these questions, in reflection, the honest answer is laughter.</p>
<p>So this abundant gig that is closing upon itself, just is.  Merely another passing divine appearance of innate purity that is perfectly so.</p>
<p>How can fear of losing livelihood climb my back if there are no footholds found?</p>
<p>With a begging bowl I may go!</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Lewis for this article. I work privately  as a psychotherapist, and I never know neither whether I will have enough patients as to accomplish my financial commitments nor how much am I going to earn. I had been living like this for 33 years and along these years very few times I stopped to think what would happen if I would not have enough: something deep in me trusted always that things would be the way they had been, as long as I did my work the best I could focusing on the very only patient I had in front of me instead of thinking ahead. When I divorced from my husband, I started panicking wondering If I would manage, as I had two girls to raise and support. But, things went out well, and still do. I trust in that deep  Inner Wisdom that lies somewhere in us which Knows how to find the way out to survive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lewis for this article. I work privately  as a psychotherapist, and I never know neither whether I will have enough patients as to accomplish my financial commitments nor how much am I going to earn. I had been living like this for 33 years and along these years very few times I stopped to think what would happen if I would not have enough: something deep in me trusted always that things would be the way they had been, as long as I did my work the best I could focusing on the very only patient I had in front of me instead of thinking ahead. When I divorced from my husband, I started panicking wondering If I would manage, as I had two girls to raise and support. But, things went out well, and still do. I trust in that deep  Inner Wisdom that lies somewhere in us which Knows how to find the way out to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: fe tayag</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-590</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading this post brought in so many scenes in my life,brought tears in my eyes as I saw myself after my divorce 5 years ago. This was a tremendous fear I had. Here is where I get quiet and bow my head and be grateful that I am a buddhist and aware of  this suffering. This fear comes but I am able to look at it, stop it from paralyzing me, and be at the present. Have not missed a meal yet.

Thanks, Lewis. As I read the article, I felt like I went in slow motion, saw every word, comma and period. Thank you.

Fe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this post brought in so many scenes in my life,brought tears in my eyes as I saw myself after my divorce 5 years ago. This was a tremendous fear I had. Here is where I get quiet and bow my head and be grateful that I am a buddhist and aware of  this suffering. This fear comes but I am able to look at it, stop it from paralyzing me, and be at the present. Have not missed a meal yet.</p>
<p>Thanks, Lewis. As I read the article, I felt like I went in slow motion, saw every word, comma and period. Thank you.</p>
<p>Fe</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a self-employed lawyer in practice with my spouse.  We never know who will come through the door needing our help.  Lately, very few.  So, I never know whether we&#039;ll be able to pay the bills.  This state of affairs is one we have lived with for many years.  In order not to waste my life is a continual state of panic, worry, depression, and anguish, I have turned more and more to meditation.  It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t feel all of the above, it&#039;s just that I&#039;ve tried to become friendlier to these feelings and to realize they needn&#039;t rule my life.  We may get through this recession still in practice or we may not.  I don&#039;t know.  But I do feel that I begin to understand something about the issue of &quot;clinging&quot;.I remind myself that if my life takes an unexpected turn, then I&#039;ll adjust and explore what&#039;s around the bend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a self-employed lawyer in practice with my spouse.  We never know who will come through the door needing our help.  Lately, very few.  So, I never know whether we&#8217;ll be able to pay the bills.  This state of affairs is one we have lived with for many years.  In order not to waste my life is a continual state of panic, worry, depression, and anguish, I have turned more and more to meditation.  It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t feel all of the above, it&#8217;s just that I&#8217;ve tried to become friendlier to these feelings and to realize they needn&#8217;t rule my life.  We may get through this recession still in practice or we may not.  I don&#8217;t know.  But I do feel that I begin to understand something about the issue of &#8220;clinging&#8221;.I remind myself that if my life takes an unexpected turn, then I&#8217;ll adjust and explore what&#8217;s around the bend.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Speel</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Speel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I turn 66 this April and am still employed I contemplate the remainder of my life.  It&#039;s uncharted territory, but I look forward to figuring out how to enjoy it as best I can.  Financial concerns need to be addressed...health concerns, another...I&#039;m grateful for all the friendships I have, because I feel they make the journey a little easier.  Even our &#039;last breath&#039; is not really a problem, but part of the journey...

Thanks for the topic, Lew!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I turn 66 this April and am still employed I contemplate the remainder of my life.  It&#8217;s uncharted territory, but I look forward to figuring out how to enjoy it as best I can.  Financial concerns need to be addressed&#8230;health concerns, another&#8230;I&#8217;m grateful for all the friendships I have, because I feel they make the journey a little easier.  Even our &#8216;last breath&#8217; is not really a problem, but part of the journey&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the topic, Lew!</p>
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		<title>By: John E</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/02/04/loss-of-livelihood-i/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m eating an apple, with my left hand. Index finger on right hand is typing. My brain tells my hands what to do, but neither hand is doing the most important thing or just being... which is not an either or choice to make, but just receive. thanks : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m eating an apple, with my left hand. Index finger on right hand is typing. My brain tells my hands what to do, but neither hand is doing the most important thing or just being&#8230; which is not an either or choice to make, but just receive. thanks : )</p>
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		<title>By: Dot Kostriken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dot Kostriken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just&quot; an animal? You ARE an animal, if you would allow the true, natural animal human to just be, there would be no judgment. Just be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just&#8221; an animal? You ARE an animal, if you would allow the true, natural animal human to just be, there would be no judgment. Just be.</p>
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		<title>By: John E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lewis,

      thank you for the honesty. 

     Standing on one side of a fence and looking in has been a part, been most of my life until recently as an addiction to pleasure, which has a range, like the feeding range of an animal, which runs out, continually.  

     Somewhere along the path to enlightenment, or bliss, or consumption I stopped and thought... &quot;Is this all there is, am I just an animal?&quot; The animal inside me ignored the question, but the spirit from which doubt arises began to manifest in depth, seeing deep connections beneath all events, and eye contact became very important. 

     Direct contact with One true nature contains the rejection as fear, and so much of fear is anger, and noise at first. Within me is a calming down, and a watching now, in seeing each moment relating to more than the filling of desire, to the emptying of the shallow shadow side of the desire to feed fear. Can be a lonely place, is a lone place, one place is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lewis,</p>
<p>      thank you for the honesty. </p>
<p>     Standing on one side of a fence and looking in has been a part, been most of my life until recently as an addiction to pleasure, which has a range, like the feeding range of an animal, which runs out, continually.  </p>
<p>     Somewhere along the path to enlightenment, or bliss, or consumption I stopped and thought&#8230; &#8220;Is this all there is, am I just an animal?&#8221; The animal inside me ignored the question, but the spirit from which doubt arises began to manifest in depth, seeing deep connections beneath all events, and eye contact became very important. </p>
<p>     Direct contact with One true nature contains the rejection as fear, and so much of fear is anger, and noise at first. Within me is a calming down, and a watching now, in seeing each moment relating to more than the filling of desire, to the emptying of the shallow shadow side of the desire to feed fear. Can be a lonely place, is a lone place, one place is.</p>
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