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		<title>Comment on Five Great Fears &#8211; Summing Up by Barbara</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/03/10/five-great-fears-summing-up/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Lewis for all your posts, I follow with deep interest everything you are transmitting to us. From this &quot;clinging realm&quot;, as Patty E wrote(I loved that expression) I am grateful for all this  knowledge.
And thank you, Rico Provasoli, for what you wrote about fear, which is taped to your computer monitor.....I will do the same!!
Blessings to you, Lewis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lewis for all your posts, I follow with deep interest everything you are transmitting to us. From this &#8220;clinging realm&#8221;, as Patty E wrote(I loved that expression) I am grateful for all this  knowledge.<br />
And thank you, Rico Provasoli, for what you wrote about fear, which is taped to your computer monitor&#8230;..I will do the same!!<br />
Blessings to you, Lewis</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Great Fears &#8211; Summing Up by Rico Provasoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico Provasoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During a 10 day retreat at zen teacher Cheri Huber&#039;s rammed earth construction monastery (LivingCompassion.org) we had daily workshops on different aspects of fear.
When we experienced a &quot;Eureka!) insight, we wrote down a pithy reminder on a 3X5 file card.
It is taped to my computer moniter:

Fear is basically a biochemical phenomenon we interpret with ego&#039;s story.


Gassho for the teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a 10 day retreat at zen teacher Cheri Huber&#8217;s rammed earth construction monastery (LivingCompassion.org) we had daily workshops on different aspects of fear.<br />
When we experienced a &#8220;Eureka!) insight, we wrote down a pithy reminder on a 3X5 file card.<br />
It is taped to my computer moniter:</p>
<p>Fear is basically a biochemical phenomenon we interpret with ego&#8217;s story.</p>
<p>Gassho for the teaching.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Great Fears &#8211; Summing Up by Dot Kostriken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dot Kostriken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of Tennesse Williams&#039; &quot;Streetcar Named Desire&quot;. His contention was that desire was what se seek to avoid death. Very Buddhist! 
Gassho to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Tennesse Williams&#8217; &#8220;Streetcar Named Desire&#8221;. His contention was that desire was what se seek to avoid death. Very Buddhist!<br />
Gassho to all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Great Fears &#8211; Summing Up by PattyE</title>
		<link>http://agingasaspiritualpractice.com/2010/03/10/five-great-fears-summing-up/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>PattyE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can hardly wait! Your statement that &quot;In true nature, there is nothing to fear because there is nothing to lose&quot; is new(s) for me. I have enjoyed these posts on the 5 great fears. Pondering true nature... hmmm, perhaps I should sit in the forest to get the &quot;true nature&quot; experience. 

Even though it&#039;s in the clinging relm, I look forward to your posts. Thank you.
Patty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can hardly wait! Your statement that &#8220;In true nature, there is nothing to fear because there is nothing to lose&#8221; is new(s) for me. I have enjoyed these posts on the 5 great fears. Pondering true nature&#8230; hmmm, perhaps I should sit in the forest to get the &#8220;true nature&#8221; experience. </p>
<p>Even though it&#8217;s in the clinging relm, I look forward to your posts. Thank you.<br />
Patty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Great Fears &#8211; Summing Up by Barry Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my own examination of fear, I (can sometimes) see how it is tethered to my projections about the future. 

To say this sounds nearly trivial, but I think it&#039;s actually quite important because the future is also the realm of desire. 

In this way, fear and desire seem like close cousins - aversion and attachment in different guises.

Thank you for your interesting series of posts on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my own examination of fear, I (can sometimes) see how it is tethered to my projections about the future. </p>
<p>To say this sounds nearly trivial, but I think it&#8217;s actually quite important because the future is also the realm of desire. </p>
<p>In this way, fear and desire seem like close cousins &#8211; aversion and attachment in different guises.</p>
<p>Thank you for your interesting series of posts on this topic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Public Speaking by Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am familiar with this type of fear since I am an attorney.  It lessened for me when I watched another attorney, experienced and persuasive, be anxious before going to court.  Then I realized that I was not alone and that the fear would come each time I went to court.  Knowing and accepting that the fear would come and could be overcome has made public speaking something I can do and do well.  It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t have fear, but that I just accept that it&#039;s part of who I am and it will not prevent me from doing what I need to do.  I am still learning the lessons that experience teaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am familiar with this type of fear since I am an attorney.  It lessened for me when I watched another attorney, experienced and persuasive, be anxious before going to court.  Then I realized that I was not alone and that the fear would come each time I went to court.  Knowing and accepting that the fear would come and could be overcome has made public speaking something I can do and do well.  It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t have fear, but that I just accept that it&#8217;s part of who I am and it will not prevent me from doing what I need to do.  I am still learning the lessons that experience teaches.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Public Speaking by julie freiberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>julie freiberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another pragmatic and very difficult teaching for learning to allow and  to  practice openess and vulnerability as a sustained way of being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another pragmatic and very difficult teaching for learning to allow and  to  practice openess and vulnerability as a sustained way of being.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Public Speaking by Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - fear of public speaking made it to the Top 5. Who would have guessed? But, just as John and Nan point out, this fear is not easily shrugged off.

Lewis, thanks for starting this discussion and for your insightful comments on panic. I&#039;d like to add an observation: not all panic is the same. Some people very close to me have suffered from crippling anxiety disorders for years. A trip across town could induce overwhelming panic, freeze them in their tracks. It was a humbling experience for them, and while it involved their ego, I wouldn&#039;t say that it was triggered by their ego, at least not in the usual sense.

I also have question for everyone: is it possible that &#039;fear of public speaking&#039; was deemed important because of the Buddha&#039;s own outreach efforts? As we know, he offered teachings regularly, sometimes to large crowds, sometimes to royalty and aristocrats, and he spurred his disciples to spread the dharma. Perhaps these experiences sharpened his awareness of this fear? One can imagine many sides to this fear: the exposure and vulnerability that a speaker feels before a crowd, the desire of a speaker to win his or her audience over to a particular point of view, a speaker&#039;s anxiety to make a good impression, the risk to a speaker&#039;s status within a community when she or he takes a public position.

I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s anyone out there who has access to the original Pali, but I wonder about the connection between this fear and the urban life that was becoming more common in the Buddha&#039;s day. Does the Pali really say &quot;public speaking&quot; or something else? Does the original text imply speaking to a large audience? Does it imply an audience of strangers? An urban setting provides these kinds of audiences in abundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; fear of public speaking made it to the Top 5. Who would have guessed? But, just as John and Nan point out, this fear is not easily shrugged off.</p>
<p>Lewis, thanks for starting this discussion and for your insightful comments on panic. I&#8217;d like to add an observation: not all panic is the same. Some people very close to me have suffered from crippling anxiety disorders for years. A trip across town could induce overwhelming panic, freeze them in their tracks. It was a humbling experience for them, and while it involved their ego, I wouldn&#8217;t say that it was triggered by their ego, at least not in the usual sense.</p>
<p>I also have question for everyone: is it possible that &#8216;fear of public speaking&#8217; was deemed important because of the Buddha&#8217;s own outreach efforts? As we know, he offered teachings regularly, sometimes to large crowds, sometimes to royalty and aristocrats, and he spurred his disciples to spread the dharma. Perhaps these experiences sharpened his awareness of this fear? One can imagine many sides to this fear: the exposure and vulnerability that a speaker feels before a crowd, the desire of a speaker to win his or her audience over to a particular point of view, a speaker&#8217;s anxiety to make a good impression, the risk to a speaker&#8217;s status within a community when she or he takes a public position.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s anyone out there who has access to the original Pali, but I wonder about the connection between this fear and the urban life that was becoming more common in the Buddha&#8217;s day. Does the Pali really say &#8220;public speaking&#8221; or something else? Does the original text imply speaking to a large audience? Does it imply an audience of strangers? An urban setting provides these kinds of audiences in abundance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Public Speaking by Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the topic that plagues me......thanks!

As chairman of a lecture series, I sometimes need to get up in front of strangers to give an introduction and to thank
those people who&#039;ve helped put the lecture together.
I, at first, felt total panic in doing this..although it felt like I was bluffing my way through...
In wondering how to overcome this anxiety, I refer to my meditation practice and experiences and this helps a little.
I think needing to be perfect  and knowing I&#039;m not plays a large role in my fears so I have begun not worrying about dressing up, hair perfect, all that &#039;stuff&#039; which also helps.
All ego junk :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the topic that plagues me&#8230;&#8230;thanks!</p>
<p>As chairman of a lecture series, I sometimes need to get up in front of strangers to give an introduction and to thank<br />
those people who&#8217;ve helped put the lecture together.<br />
I, at first, felt total panic in doing this..although it felt like I was bluffing my way through&#8230;<br />
In wondering how to overcome this anxiety, I refer to my meditation practice and experiences and this helps a little.<br />
I think needing to be perfect  and knowing I&#8217;m not plays a large role in my fears so I have begun not worrying about dressing up, hair perfect, all that &#8217;stuff&#8217; which also helps.<br />
All ego junk <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Fear of Public Speaking by John E</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of my public speaking goes to patients and families I work with in ICU, as it is a focus I am very interested in. Understanding the course of events which brought us to a threshold of beginning a new direction, the modifications that will have to be made to reclaim a portion of normalcy, or emotional adjustments to the chaos, creates in me a platform to answer questions of basic need, versus basic want. And there is intense interest here on the basics of life, a simplified direction that has answers that make a difference in reducing suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my public speaking goes to patients and families I work with in ICU, as it is a focus I am very interested in. Understanding the course of events which brought us to a threshold of beginning a new direction, the modifications that will have to be made to reclaim a portion of normalcy, or emotional adjustments to the chaos, creates in me a platform to answer questions of basic need, versus basic want. And there is intense interest here on the basics of life, a simplified direction that has answers that make a difference in reducing suffering.</p>
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